Electricity prices to rise by 10% on 01/08

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Electricity prices to rise by 10% on 01/08

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Hotrodder wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:39 am So it appears that wherever we choose to live, our governments are using smoke and mirrors to appear to be working for the peoples' best interests while really just looking after themselves and the commercial entities. :roll:
You are absolutely right! The last French presidents who cared about the people in the long term were De Gaulle and Pompidou. Since then, all the others think only of their re-election and getting rich.
- 1945: De Gaulle launches nuclear power in France
- 1957-1972: 9 generators commissioned
- 1973: 8% of production is nuclear
- 2016: 80% of production is nuclear
But the Germans don't like that French industrialists have much cheaper electricity than theirs.
- 1999 and 2007: creation of artificial competitors to EDF (we are then told that it is so that we pay less... Really? 😫)
- 2019-2020 To please the Germans, Macron shuts down 2 power plants and schedules the closure of 12 others. It also stops the ASTRID project which makes it possible to reuse waste from old power plants and wants to reduce nuclear power to 50% instead of 80.
And now Macron wants us to believe that he had the good idea to relaunch nuclear power! I have a hard time trusting him...
Demain est le premier des jours qu'il nous reste à vivre: profitons-en ! :D

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niemeyjt wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:22 am Well, look what just arrived in my inbox - both are real readings:

So it looks like they changed everything on 1st July and I now pay 32.49p per unit
You were paying 48.93-16.57= 32.36p/kWh. The UK price cap changed on 1 July and for July, you are now paying 29.26p/kWh

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Biloute wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:35 am It also stops the ASTRID project which makes it possible to reuse waste from old power plants
The ASTRID (Advanced Sodium Technological Reactor for Industrial Demonstration) project was a sodium-cooled fast reactor and was still in an early planning stage when it was abandoned. Three earlier French fast reactor projects had also failed https://www.neimagazine.com/news/newsfr ... ct-7394432

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#24 Post by niemeyjt »

elsie wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:32 amYou were paying 48.93-16.57= 32.36p/kWh. The UK price cap changed on 1 July and for July, you are now paying 29.26p/kWh
oops - quoted the wrong figure off the bill

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elsie wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:22 pm
Biloute wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:35 am It also stops the ASTRID project which makes it possible to reuse waste from old power plants
The ASTRID (Advanced Sodium Technological Reactor for Industrial Demonstration) project was a sodium-cooled fast reactor and was still in an early planning stage when it was abandoned. Three earlier French fast reactor projects had also failed https://www.neimagazine.com/news/newsfr ... ct-7394432
I do not accept the term "failed" and I find this article very biased.
Before Astrid, there was Phenix and Superphenix but they didn't fail: they were stopped, which is different.
- in 1982, German ecologists fired 5 rockets at the Creys-Malville Superphenix causing heavy damage.
- our Socialist government at the time did not even protest and Lionel Jospin decided, in the face of pressure from environmentalists, to close the site in 1997
- it was only in 2006 that Chirac launched Astrid, abandoned in 2019 by Macron
It's true that this type of project is expensive but when you want to win a lot, you have to bet big, like in poker...
The challenge for Superphenix and Astrid was to reuse waste from old power plants, in other words free fuel perhaps for 1,000 years because we have stored all this waste.
In any case, starting projects and then stopping them is a waste!
In 1945, De Gaulle had bet big and we had won our independence and cheap electricity!!!
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You might not want to read another biased article https://www.pveurope.eu/markets/energy- ... lear-power

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#27 Post by Char »

I've just had a look back over previous bills, in March the gouv gave us €200 cheque d'energie and in May they gave us another one for €240, our bill averages €70-80 a month so I can't really complain at the rise seeing as the gouv has paid for several months of our leccy - I suppose I now feel a bit guilty because everyone's bills gone up as a result.

Anyhow, I couldn't afford electricity in the UK looking at some of the prices quoted on this thread.

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#28 Post by Hotrodder »

I was wondering if the energy cheque thing was still going. We haven't had one this year.
Humanity landed on the moon over fifty years ago but it seems too much to ask for a reliable telephone/internet service in rural France.

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#29 Post by suein56 »

Hotrodder wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:48 pm I was wondering if the energy cheque thing was still going. We haven't had one this year.
We rec'd a 'chèque bois' just recently.
Did you tick the box that said 'sign me up for any other cheque énergie which becomes available' ?

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#30 Post by Hotrodder »

Depends where the box was. If there was a box somewhere I wouldn't pass up any offer of help believe me.
Humanity landed on the moon over fifty years ago but it seems too much to ask for a reliable telephone/internet service in rural France.

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