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#431 Post by Ford Focus »

What weapons are France and Germany sending to Ukraine?

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#432 Post by niemeyjt »

Ford Focus wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:02 amWhat weapons are France and Germany sending to Ukraine?
That was whatI was suggesting when I wrote:
niemeyjt wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 pmSadly, old kit and empty promises seem to be closer to home.
Germany has sent some Soviet era "Strella" anti-aircraft missiles acquired with the East German Army plus lighter weaponry. A swap deal with some old tanks in storage seems to be too much for them.

As for France, Ukrainian Twitter has a new word - Makronizm - meaning “to promise results again and again and again, and not deliver”

Most weaponry seems to be coming from the US with UK also helping - plus other former Warsaw Pact States also shifting soviet era tanks and planes that Ukrainian forces already are familiar with.

see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... to-ukraine

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#433 Post by Bayleaf »

Crikey - this is a new one... didn't know this was going on. :?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61133439

"The EU has banned lorries from Russia and Belarus - except those carrying medicine, mail or petroleum products - from entering or staying in the bloc".

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#434 Post by Hotrodder »

From the link above:
"In the run-up to the Saturday deadline, the line extended to 80km (60 miles), with some stuck for up to 33 hours."

Sounds a bit like the M20 in Kent recently. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Humanity landed on the moon over fifty years ago but it seems too much to ask for a reliable telephone/internet service in rural France.

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#435 Post by niemeyjt »

Hotrodder wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:35 pm From the link above:
"In the run-up to the Saturday deadline, the line extended to 80km (60 miles), with some stuck for up to 33 hours."

Sounds a bit like the M20 in Kent recently. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Perhaps the UK could "lend" Grant Schapps to Messrs Putin and Lukashenko?

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#436 Post by Bayleaf »

Hotrodder wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:35 pm From the link above:
"In the run-up to the Saturday deadline, the line extended to 80km (60 miles), with some stuck for up to 33 hours."

Sounds a bit like the M20 in Kent recently. :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's what I thought it was talking about initially!

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#437 Post by Bayleaf »

Article in the Sud Ouest today, "La mort mystérieuse d’une famille d’un oligarque russe qui vivait à Bordeaux" "La famille Protosenya vivait à Bordeaux dans le quartier de Caudéran". I would put the article up, but you probably won't get much more than that without subscribing.

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#438 Post by Blaze »

More here on France Bleu :
https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/faits-d ... 1651110187
Version in English in Newsweek :
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligar ... in-1699660

Murders made to look like suicide ?
France Bleu wrote:Ancien vice-président du géant gazier russe Novatek, Sergey Protosenya était à la tête d'une fortune estimée à 440 millions d'euros. Toujours membre du conseil d'administration de la compagnie, l'homme âgé de 55 ans résidait dans le quartier Caudéran à Bordeaux. Il se trouvait en famille dans la station balnéaire de LLoret del Mar pour y passer les vacances de Pâques.

Le quotidien espagnol à l'origine des révélations indique que les policiers catalans ont découvert l'oligarque pendu dans le jardin de la villa, non loin des corps de sa femme, Natalia, et de leur fille âgée de 18 ans, qui auraient été poignardées à mort, une hache et un couteau ayant été retrouvés sur place.

Meurtres maquillés en suicides ?

Le décès de Sergey Protosenya n'est pas un cas isolé. Plusieurs oligarques russes, Vasily Melnikov, Mikhail Watford ou encore Alexander Tyulyakov, ont récemment disparu dans d'étranges circonstances. Depuis la guerre en Ukraine, six d'entre eux ont été retrouvés morts, selon le magazine anglo-saxon Newsweek. Des drames présentés comme des suicides par les autorités russes.

Cette hécatombe interroge toutefois dans la mesure où, à chaque fois, aucune trace d'effraction n'est relevée. Autre détail troublant, l'absence de traces de sang sur le corps de Sergey Protosenya.
Ces oligarques qui s'étaient en partie exilés étaient pour la plupart de hauts responsables de l'entreprise Gazprom ou cadres dans d'autres géants de l'énergie, tel que Novatek, là où travaillait Sergey Protosenya. Les enfants de ce dernier étaient scolarisés au lycée privé Grand Lebrun à Bordeaux.

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#439 Post by Bayleaf »

So, it's the evil b*stards big day today, and the whole world is apparently waiting with baited breath to see what his speech is going to be.

Some say he's going to declare war beyond his Ukraine butchering-invasion (sorry, "special military operation" :roll: :evil: ).

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#440 Post by niemeyjt »

One has to hope that the mothers of the fallen soldiers come together and begin to wake up to what is happening.

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