Failure to show cds at immigration.
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widge
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Hi,
Yesterday we flew to Guadeloupe from Toulouse via Charles de Gaulle, this shouldn't be an issue as both are internal flights. But we booked special assistance for my wife, Toulouse and Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe, we great. CDG a nightmare, on booking special assistance Jane indicated that she could walk a little, meaning from the gate to the aircraft, as long as she didnt have to stand queuing. CDG didn't provide a wheelchair for her or another french lady who also could hardly walk.
Rather that try and be sympathetic, their response was, sorry you didn't book one! some of it was fine as it was on an electric trolly but other bits were quite long walks for her.
Anyway back to the main issue, at one point he said we just have to pass this security check, he fast tracked us to the front of the queue, and my wife handed over her passport, where it was promptly scanned and stamped, before we had a chance to realise, that this was an immigration control. On her saying but I have a CDS, the response was too late you didn't show it.
Transfer time was short so we didn't have any time to do anything but go to the gate.
Somehow special assistance's shortcut through the airport, must have taken us through an international arrivals section. Requiring passing through immigration control.
I will try and contact air france to see what they say, but not sure if we can just ignore what happened, or if we have to try and sort it out.
Anyone has any experience with this sort of thing?
Dave
Yesterday we flew to Guadeloupe from Toulouse via Charles de Gaulle, this shouldn't be an issue as both are internal flights. But we booked special assistance for my wife, Toulouse and Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe, we great. CDG a nightmare, on booking special assistance Jane indicated that she could walk a little, meaning from the gate to the aircraft, as long as she didnt have to stand queuing. CDG didn't provide a wheelchair for her or another french lady who also could hardly walk.
Rather that try and be sympathetic, their response was, sorry you didn't book one! some of it was fine as it was on an electric trolly but other bits were quite long walks for her.
Anyway back to the main issue, at one point he said we just have to pass this security check, he fast tracked us to the front of the queue, and my wife handed over her passport, where it was promptly scanned and stamped, before we had a chance to realise, that this was an immigration control. On her saying but I have a CDS, the response was too late you didn't show it.
Transfer time was short so we didn't have any time to do anything but go to the gate.
Somehow special assistance's shortcut through the airport, must have taken us through an international arrivals section. Requiring passing through immigration control.
I will try and contact air france to see what they say, but not sure if we can just ignore what happened, or if we have to try and sort it out.
Anyone has any experience with this sort of thing?
Dave
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L Austin France
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Which bit are you " not sure if we can just ignore what happened,"?widge wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 11:04 am Hi,
Yesterday we flew to Guadeloupe from Toulouse via Charles de Gaulle, this shouldn't be an issue as both are internal flights. But we booked special assistance for my wife, Toulouse and Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe, we great. CDG a nightmare, on booking special assistance Jane indicated that she could walk a little, meaning from the gate to the aircraft, as long as she didnt have to stand queuing. CDG didn't provide a wheelchair for her or another french lady who also could hardly walk.
Rather that try and be sympathetic, their response was, sorry you didn't book one! some of it was fine as it was on an electric trolly but other bits were quite long walks for her.
Anyway back to the main issue, at one point he said we just have to pass this security check, he fast tracked us to the front of the queue, and my wife handed over her passport, where it was promptly scanned and stamped, before we had a chance to realise, that this was an immigration control. On her saying but I have a CDS, the response was too late you didn't show it.
Transfer time was short so we didn't have any time to do anything but go to the gate.
Somehow special assistance's shortcut through the airport, must have taken us through an international arrivals section. Requiring passing through immigration control.
I will try and contact air france to see what they say, but not sure if we can just ignore what happened, or if we have to try and sort it out.
Anyone has any experience with this sort of thing?
Dave
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Veem
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
My understanding is that once that stamp is in your passport it takes quite a lot to get it negated, and the next time you enter France, immigration control will immediately think you should have a visa. But I haven't had it happen to me.
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L Austin France
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Mme once had her PP stamped even though she showed the immigration lady her CDS .
When challenged said lady said the French equivalent of 'Oops' & simply put a line through the stamp. She's not had any problems since.
Seems like anyone could do it.
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widge
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
From what it sounds like, we can probably ignore what happened, but I will still report it to air france.
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Just a serious question. Why is it a problem to have a stamp in your passport? I haven't travelled for several years and don't intend to but I am interested to know if having it stamped causes problems.
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exile
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
In this particular case I am very unsure why there should have been border control on what is essentially an internal flight but then I am no expert on French controls.
As a general point however, suppose you arrive in France from your 6monthly trip to the UK. You don't show your TdS (or maybe you do but it is ignored) and your passport is stamped. When you come to leave France on your next trip to the UK, the inspection of your passport will show your entry five and a half months earlier and show you are in breach of the 90 day rule imposed since Brexit.
Showing your TdS now should solve the issue but there is a risk that rabbits are sent running with questions (at least in the mind of the immigration officer) that maybe the TdS is fake. So questions and checks - and all the while your flight is boarding. Potentially you miss the flight.
I am not aware that this has happened but you can I hope see the potential. There have been enough reported errors by immigration as well as travellers that to date I am sure that bedding in leniency has been practiced. That could change easily if some incident changed relationships.
Quite how this will play out once checks become electronic is another concern. Will passports be linked to the owners' TdS?
As a general point however, suppose you arrive in France from your 6monthly trip to the UK. You don't show your TdS (or maybe you do but it is ignored) and your passport is stamped. When you come to leave France on your next trip to the UK, the inspection of your passport will show your entry five and a half months earlier and show you are in breach of the 90 day rule imposed since Brexit.
Showing your TdS now should solve the issue but there is a risk that rabbits are sent running with questions (at least in the mind of the immigration officer) that maybe the TdS is fake. So questions and checks - and all the while your flight is boarding. Potentially you miss the flight.
I am not aware that this has happened but you can I hope see the potential. There have been enough reported errors by immigration as well as travellers that to date I am sure that bedding in leniency has been practiced. That could change easily if some incident changed relationships.
Quite how this will play out once checks become electronic is another concern. Will passports be linked to the owners' TdS?
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Exile you have confused me. If you have a TdS then surely you are a french resident so the 90 day rule doesn't apply
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exile
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Failure to show cds at immigration.
Yes but if they stamped your passport it will look as if you are not a French resident because EU residents do not get their passports stamped.. So when they look at your passport when you next exit it will look as if the 90 day rule has been broken - and that is when the fun could start. Hopefully the TdS would then be accepted without question. It should certainly be accepted but as in my example it could create delays and certainly stress.
