Retirement reforms - France
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Niftyons
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Ah! The Good Old Days.
PPs have certainly cause a bit of division in the U.K.
It is peculiar that with some of the clever about, a system that suits everybody can’t be implicated.
PPs have certainly cause a bit of division in the U.K.
It is peculiar that with some of the clever about, a system that suits everybody can’t be implicated.
- Blaze
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Many of the French are whingeing about the 49.3 being undemocratic .... but it's written into their constitution, brought in by de Gaulle in 1958 with his V Republic.
Ah ..... de Gaulle ..... untouchable .....
Perhaps the Constitution needs reforming .....
Why don't they lobby for the removal of article 49.3 from the constitution ???
Using the 49.3 means the government risks a vote of no confidence, which is now being put into action by Nupes and Le Pen.
Ah ..... de Gaulle ..... untouchable .....
Perhaps the Constitution needs reforming .....
Why don't they lobby for the removal of article 49.3 from the constitution ???
Using the 49.3 means the government risks a vote of no confidence, which is now being put into action by Nupes and Le Pen.
- Biloute
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This afternoon, the parliament will decide whether or not the non-confidence. LFI, RN and LIOT will vote for but it is not enough. It would take 25 more Republicans, which is unlikely. So the pension reform will be accepted despite the fact that 70% of the people are against it.
What will happen in the street ?
Until now, people protested against the government. In my opinion, they will now also protest against MPs who betray their constituents by refusing to bring down the government.
The chaos will not stop but rather increase !
What will happen in the street ?
Until now, people protested against the government. In my opinion, they will now also protest against MPs who betray their constituents by refusing to bring down the government.
The chaos will not stop but rather increase !
Demain est le premier des jours qu'il nous reste à vivre: profitons-en ! 
- Blaze
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Not sure that this is right because what goes on in the parliament is not necessarily the will of the people ! Where did you get the 70% from ?
But you're right, Biloute, the chaos will continue ....
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Niftyons
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- Bayleaf
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Ouf! He better not holiday in France!!
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niemeyjt
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- Biloute
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The vote was very close: need 287 votes - 277 voted for: only 9 votes were missing for censure.
70% of French people refuse the reform and want to see the government fall.
Until now, the French have taken to the streets to protest against the government. Without a doubt, they will continue but, in addition, they will ALSO protest against the Parliament which betrays them...
So: a lot of chaos to expect. If peaceful protests don't work, the temptation is great to turn violent!
Lots of other things can happen:
- E.Borne resigns
- Macron resigns (unlikely)
- Macron dissolves Parliament,
- Macron organizes a referendum
- possibly other options
Nothing is predictable in France, that's what makes us so charming
70% of French people refuse the reform and want to see the government fall.
Until now, the French have taken to the streets to protest against the government. Without a doubt, they will continue but, in addition, they will ALSO protest against the Parliament which betrays them...
So: a lot of chaos to expect. If peaceful protests don't work, the temptation is great to turn violent!
Lots of other things can happen:
- E.Borne resigns
- Macron resigns (unlikely)
- Macron dissolves Parliament,
- Macron organizes a referendum
- possibly other options
Nothing is predictable in France, that's what makes us so charming
Demain est le premier des jours qu'il nous reste à vivre: profitons-en ! 
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niemeyjt
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tagh
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24 extra months sitting on their ar*e* for fonctionnaires, one is hardly saddened given that most started other jobs the day they stopped milking the tax payer……. ooops, their pensions are still drawing hard on the public udder!
But one is struck by the lack of flexibility in the new scheme.
But one is struck by the lack of flexibility in the new scheme.
