Police reduce a car driver to tears

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Pathca
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Re: Police reduce a car driver to tears

#11 Post by Pathca »

A couple of years ago I was doing training with some PCSOs and I was to be a driver getting a Section 59 warning. The story was I’d been driving around ,reving my engine ,doing handbrake turns ,radio very loud etc. By the time they approached me I had parked but had the radio playing at high volume. It suddenly occurred to me that Radio Two in general and Ken Bruce in particular wasn’t really the ambiance we were trying to achieve, and I was desperately trying to change channels before they arrived

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Re: Police reduce a car driver to tears

#12 Post by beejay »

Pathca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:24 pm Reading the Tweet It is probably the case that there is more than a year between the two section 59 warnings so no power to confiscate,however a power came from the section 60 offence Oh dear what a pity
Perhaps the Twitter report was inaccurate?

Section 60 is stop & search but what reasonfor that would apply to this case and does it give a right to seize a vehicle per se?

As the driver had no insurance seizure was inevitable unless the driver could conjure up some cover on the spot.

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Re: Police reduce a car driver to tears

#13 Post by MAD87 »

The media - whether social or otherwise - rarely reports accurately (I've plenty of relevant experience). I've read a couple of reports of this case to get around the registering stuff and it seems that the driver (owner? who knows?) was driving an untaxed vehicle possibly dangerously or carelessly and had been warned twice before. He's said to be unable to afford the car tax. Doh. Sounds like a man who needs to grow up before he kills someone.

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#14 Post by Doug »

Trouble is [mention]MAD87[/mention] that some people never do grow up at least their brains don't.

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#15 Post by MAD87 »

Doug wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:05 pm Trouble is @MAD87 that some people never do grow up at least their brains don't.
Oh don't I know!

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Re: Police reduce a car driver to tears

#16 Post by Pathca »

beejay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:58 pm
Pathca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:24 pm Reading the Tweet It is probably the case that there is more than a year between the two section 59 warnings so no power to confiscate,however a power came from the section 60 offence Oh dear what a pity
Perhaps the Twitter report was inaccurate?

Section 60 is stop & search but what reasonfor that would apply to this case and does it give a right to seize a vehicle per se?

As the driver had no insurance seizure was inevitable unless the driver could conjure up some cover on the spot.
More than one act has a Section 60, the Stop and Search is the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act. The Road Traffic Act Section 60 does give a power to seize a vehicle
You are right no insurance does mean a vehicle can be seized, but in the article it says it wasn’t taxed, not that it wasn’t insured

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#17 Post by Spardo »

[mention]MAD87[/mention]
He's said to be unable to afford the car tax. Doh.
Long time since such things bothered me, but is tax the same for all vehicles or is it calculated according to horsepower, or some other criterion?

I can understand that the insurance might be unaffordable, especially if he ran out of money buying the heap. :lol:

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Re: Police reduce a car driver to tears

#18 Post by Pathca »

No tax varies from car to car mine is only £20

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#19 Post by MAD87 »

Apparently he faced 1st-year tax of £2,700....

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#20 Post by beejay »

Pathca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:47 am No tax varies from car to car mine is only £20
Car tax rates changed for new registrations in 2017.

Top rate VED for this car in first year is £2235 then for cars selling for more than £40000 it's £490 pa for next 5 years. Those figures may be slightly out it's a complicated calculation.

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