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When was the British Empire at its most apogee ?

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You mean when was it most subjected invaded countries to its land-and-riches-grabbing? :D
My initial thought was pre-1947, but I think it must be pre-1921.

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1815 to 1914 it was at its peak.
It was called the British century.
Nothing to do with cricket though. :D

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There is a possibility thatI could have followed on with something, but,
I can’t remember exactly what I thinking about :(

Obviously, using language like most apogee I wasn’t thinking straight.
This screen is driving me batty

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1919 - 1921

Britain gained the German East African States following the treaty of Versailles but had not surrendered Eire to the Irish.

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I will amend that somewhat since a bit of research has shown the impacts of post WW1 were greater than I thought - Germans colonialization was wider than I thought plus there was the ceding of Turkish areas :

Namibia -> UK
Parts of Papua New Guinea --> UK
Turkish Middle East split between the UK and France. UK took control of Palestine and Iraq as well as other areas - that went well didn't it.

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exile wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:33 pm I will amend that somewhat since a bit of research has shown the impacts of post WW1 were greater than I thought - Germans colonialization was wider than I thought plus there was the ceding of Turkish areas :

Namibia -> UK
Parts of Papua New Guinea --> UK
Turkish Middle East split between the UK and France. UK took control of Palestine and Iraq as well as other areas - that went well didn't it.
I thought Palestine was a UK UN mandate, rather than a colonisation, but nevertheless like all overseas territories under foreign control, morally unsustainable.

As regards Turkish and German cedings to Britain and France, they were already colonised, so merely a transfer of control. No bits of Turkey or Germany were annexed, unless of course we consider Alsace as German.

BTW, I always considered the Monroe doctrine a supreme hypocrisy, a real case of immigrants pulling up the ladder behind them. :lol:

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You are right David. Palestine was a protectorate rather than a colony, but end effect in terms of British influence would have been similar.

Germany and Turkey did lose bits of their "own" country of course - Armenia and East Prussia - but to create new states rather than transfer to a colonial state.

Additionally to Alsace, Saar also transferred to French control but in a later plebiscite voted to return to Germany.

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Doug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:32 amthe British century.
Is this a decent view or one of dissent ?

https://davidcharles.info/uncategorized ... tish-html/

Perhaps some Great British see it as just doing their bit to help
fight the main enemy.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

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exile wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:20 pm 1919 - 1921

Britain gained the German East African States following the treaty of Versailles but had not surrendered Eire to the Irish.
"surrendered". Strange choice of verb. I think you mean when it returned Ireland to its rightful owners.

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