Ukraine again!

[Headers]

VZ is between a rock and a hard place. He toughed it out well after being humiliated by Trump and his accolytes.They disgust me.

[glazedallover]

I agree that Zelensky is in an almost impossible position, but I don't think he was humiliated. He refused to back off and I believe that Trump lost a lot of face, and will be scrabbling to try and retrieve things.

[exile]

Sadly Trump has nothing to retrieve. He holds all of the important cards and he will chose to use them to his advantage. If in a weeks time he is shown to be wrong, he will simply question whether the event ever tool place or just deny that it did.

Trump has confirmed today to the whole world that he is a nasty self centred bully.

[Wilbro]

Trump and Vance ganging up on Zelensky like a pair of schoolyard bullies. Disgusting exhibition and reminiscent of Hitler and the Sudetenland except that Trump is threatening with another countries power, Russia. Come on Europe, unite and let's get rid of any dependency on the US whether it's economic or military based.

[glazedallover]

Sadly Trump has nothing to retrieve. He holds all of the important cards and he will chose to use them to his advantage. If in a weeks time he is shown to be wrong, he will simply question whether the event ever tool place or just deny that it did.

Trump has confirmed today to the whole world that he is a nasty self centred bully.

They aren't playing cards.

[glazedallover]

Trump and Vance ganging up on Zelensky like a pair of schoolyard bullies. Disgusting exhibition and reminiscent of Hitler and the Sudetenland except that Trump is threatening with another countries power, Russia. Come on Europe, unite and let's get rid of any dependency on the US whether it's economic or military based.

That would be nice......occupy Belarus, and tell Putain, that he can have it back when he leaves the Crimea.

Only kidding......

[exile]

Sadly Trump has nothing to retrieve. He holds all of the important cards and he will chose to use them to his advantage. If in a weeks time he is shown to be wrong, he will simply question whether the event ever tool place or just deny that it did.

Trump has confirmed today to the whole world that he is a nasty self centred bully.

They aren't playing cards.

You are right but it was Trump that said, "You don't hold the cards". I rather think he treats this just like a game of cards.

[exile]

Now here is an idea, that I wish were mine but isn't; How about all of those countries that rallied around the US after 911 and took part in the war against terror, now go to Washington and demand a big, big public thank you as well as some form of significant monetary recompense.

[glazedallover]

Sadly Trump has nothing to retrieve. He holds all of the important cards and he will chose to use them to his advantage. If in a weeks time he is shown to be wrong, he will simply question whether the event ever tool place or just deny that it did.

Trump has confirmed today to the whole world that he is a nasty self centred bully.

They aren't playing cards.

You are right but it was Trump that said, "You don't hold the cards". I rather think he treats this just like a game of cards.

And it was Zelensky that said "We aren't playing cards ".

Of course listening to the whole clip is rather onerous.

[Blaze]

Just got in from work .... and listened to the interview. As Exile says, a nasty, self-centred bully. He and Vance kept talking over Zelensky who asked why they invited him there but wouldn't let him speak.

Zelensky was extremely courageous speaking in English. If they had used interpreters, things might have been different.
So Trump has failed to get Zelensky to sign the mineral rights but only has himself and his toadies to blame.

Marco Rubio, the US Secretary of State, just appeared on CNN for an interview.
Speaking to the network's programme "The Source", Rubio describes the meeting earlier today between Presidents Donald Trump and Volodomyr Zelensky as a "fiasco" and said the Ukrainian leader should apologise.
“There was no need for him to go in there and become antagonistic,” Rubio says of Zelensky.

It would be laughable if it weren't so disgusting.