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I love the French but

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Why so anti vaccine, only 68% think the health pass is a good thing.
The article below is from Skynews.


An Ipsos poll last week found 62% of French people were in favour of a health pass. Hundreds of thousands of people signed up for vaccinations after the president unveiled the plans last week. More than 43% of French people have had two doses.

About 114,000 people protested on the streets across France on Saturday against the stricter vaccination rules, which include compulsory jabs for healthcare workers and retirement home staff. Some legislators have received death threats after supporting the new vaccination rules. The Bayonne public prosecutor has launched an arson investigation after a vaccination centre was set on fire in Urrugne in the Pyrénées-Atlantique in south-western France on Saturday night. Firefighters put out the blaze at a tent set up to house a vaccination centre. The prosecutor said flammable products had been found nearby.

There was outrage from the government, human rights groups and relatives of holocaust survivors in France after some protesters used the symbol of the yellow star – imposed on Jewish citizens in Nazi-occupied Europe to mark them out for segregation discrimination and deportation to death camps.

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I think social media has a lot to answer for in the spread of false information. People pass on articles without checking if they are genuine and believe anything that comes from someone called "Dr ...." or "Prof ...."
The French would like their brioche and eat it. They would like to live in a civilised society with all the benefits but seem unwilling to accept that that may mean giving up some of their perceived liberties.

They love resorting to vandalism, destroying anything they feel is constraining their right to express themselves or their freedom to do as they like. Speed traps bear witness to this : if you don't like it, destroy it and it will go away. No thought about the irresponsible behaviour that brought about their installation ! Then there was the destruction and vandalism of shops in Paris when the Jilly Joneses and Black Bloc were having their fun. Innocent individuals trying to earn a living having their businesses destroyed overnight. Whilst this may not only apply to the French, there is a prevailing attitude of "Me First, I want it now even if I can't afford it" that means they are unable to look at the bigger picture and are unwilling to understand why various measures are brought in.

The endless whining about Macron and Macronism :roll: Who voted him in ? Who do they think would have acted any differently - I would imagine the scientific and medical advice would have been the same whoever was in government.
There are now articles about how the pass sanitaire is going to divide people, those who have been vaccinated and those who refuse. It's hard on those who for medical reasons cannot be vaccinated.

I love the French but ..... what a nation of râleurs (by their own admission) !

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As I posted earlier on the other forum, I'm convinced that protesting is in the French genes.
They will walk the streets etc for any reason whilst over in the UK they just go down the pub have a drink and swear about things.

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Well if it divides people vaccinated and non vaccinated then fine. It keeps them away from me.

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banjobob wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:31 pm Why so anti vaccine, only 68% think the health pass is a good thing.
The article below is from Skynews.


An Ipsos poll last week found 62% of French people were in favour of a health pass. Hundreds of thousands of people signed up for vaccinations after the president unveiled the plans last week. More than 43% of French people have had two doses.

About 114,000 people protested on the streets across France on Saturday against the stricter vaccination rules, which include compulsory jabs for healthcare workers and retirement home staff. Some legislators have received death threats after supporting the new vaccination rules. The Bayonne public prosecutor has launched an arson investigation after a vaccination centre was set on fire in Urrugne in the Pyrénées-Atlantique in south-western France on Saturday night. Firefighters put out the blaze at a tent set up to house a vaccination centre. The prosecutor said flammable products had been found nearby.

There was outrage from the government, human rights groups and relatives of holocaust survivors in France after some protesters used the symbol of the yellow star – imposed on Jewish citizens in Nazi-occupied Europe to mark them out for segregation discrimination and deportation to death camps.
I'm not sure what your point is, you'll have to help me.

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Wilbro wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:42 pm Well if it divides people vaccinated and non vaccinated then fine. It keeps them away from me.
Plus One!
On my headstone it will say: Please switch off mobile phones. I'm trying to get some sleep.

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DaveW wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:14 pm
banjobob wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:31 pm Why so anti vaccine, only 68% think the health pass is a good thing.
The article below is from Skynews.


An Ipsos poll last week found 62% of French people were in favour of a health pass. Hundreds of thousands of people signed up for vaccinations after the president unveiled the plans last week. More than 43% of French people have had two doses.

About 114,000 people protested on the streets across France on Saturday against the stricter vaccination rules, which include compulsory jabs for healthcare workers and retirement home staff. Some legislators have received death threats after supporting the new vaccination rules. The Bayonne public prosecutor has launched an arson investigation after a vaccination centre was set on fire in Urrugne in the Pyrénées-Atlantique in south-western France on Saturday night. Firefighters put out the blaze at a tent set up to house a vaccination centre. The prosecutor said flammable products had been found nearby.

There was outrage from the government, human rights groups and relatives of holocaust survivors in France after some protesters used the symbol of the yellow star – imposed on Jewish citizens in Nazi-occupied Europe to mark them out for segregation discrimination and deportation to death camps.
I'm not sure what your point is, you'll have to help me.
Why take to the streets during a pandemic?
Just get the vaccine, it may save youe your life.

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Hotrodder wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:10 pm
Wilbro wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:42 pm Well if it divides people vaccinated and non vaccinated then fine. It keeps them away from me.
Plus One!
They say 60% of new hospital admissions in the UK for covid were double jabbed.

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A fairly local British bar posted during the week that they were shut for a day because they were taking part in an anti Health Pass démonstration. I thought that that was odd because that’s just the sort of place I’d only go to if there were restrictions in place. Their concern was that the EU pass doesn’t accept U.K. vaccinations so they would loose a lot of trade during the summer from the second home owners who put a lot of money over the bar who would be banned from entry even if fully vaccinated.

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banjobob wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:25 pm
DaveW wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:14 pm
banjobob wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:31 pm Why so anti vaccine, only 68% think the health pass is a good thing.
The article below is from Skynews.


An Ipsos poll last week found 62% of French people were in favour of a health pass. Hundreds of thousands of people signed up for vaccinations after the president unveiled the plans last week. More than 43% of French people have had two doses.

About 114,000 people protested on the streets across France on Saturday against the stricter vaccination rules, which include compulsory jabs for healthcare workers and retirement home staff. Some legislators have received death threats after supporting the new vaccination rules. The Bayonne public prosecutor has launched an arson investigation after a vaccination centre was set on fire in Urrugne in the Pyrénées-Atlantique in south-western France on Saturday night. Firefighters put out the blaze at a tent set up to house a vaccination centre. The prosecutor said flammable products had been found nearby.

There was outrage from the government, human rights groups and relatives of holocaust survivors in France after some protesters used the symbol of the yellow star – imposed on Jewish citizens in Nazi-occupied Europe to mark them out for segregation discrimination and deportation to death camps.
I'm not sure what your point is, you'll have to help me.
Why take to the streets during a pandemic?
Just get the vaccine, it may save youe your life.
Fine, the part I don't get is the last paragraph, it's out of context - and inflammatory.

I just don't get it.

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