The Afghans why do they want to come to the West ?

[DaveW]

I have a sneaking suspicion there has been an agreement with the Taliban. There are more than 4000 US/Nato soldiers still on the ground in Kabul and growing, so far no car bombs and the usual suicidal shit.

[niemeyjt]

Despite all the talk or martyrdom and the promise of virgins, I also suspect that the Taliban will be keen to avoid NATO airstrikes and thus for the most part do not provoke.

[mysty]

I have a sneaking suspicion there has been an agreement with the Taliban. There are more than 4000 US/Nato soldiers still on the ground in Kabul and growing, so far no car bombs and the usual suicidal shit.

From what I have heard almost everything can be pre arranged with the Taliban.
As they have black hawks, state of the art drones now they could take out the American or British if they wanted to.

[Spectrum]

From what I have heard almost everything can be pre arranged with the Taliban.
As they have black hawks, state of the art drones now they could take out the American or British if they wanted to.

They may have moved on from camels and swords but to operate this new found bounty needs skill and years of training to operate, a skill I don't think they have, anyhow all their assets have been frozen so no access to cash.

[mysty]

At spectrum.
I'm pretty sure there will be a good chance that some of the Afgan army that was trained by the Americans or British could or were pro Talaban so may well have been trained.

[Spectrum]

At spectrum.
I'm pretty sure there will be a good chance that some of the Afgan army that was trained by the Americans or British could or were pro Talaban so may well have been trained.

You do have a fair point there

[beejay]

My question is : What happened to the Afghan army which was trained with British and American money ? The Taliban were able sweep across the country with apparently little or no resistance. My guess is that they probably deserted fearing reprisals, but there has been absolutely no mention of them.

Operating out in the open country needs air support and the withdrawal of it, operated (mainly) by US/UK, was more or less overnight.

[Hotrodder]

From what I have heard almost everything can be pre arranged with the Taliban.
As they have black hawks, state of the art drones now they could take out the American or British if they wanted to.

They may have moved on from camels and swords but to operate this new found bounty needs skill and years of training to operate, a skill I don't think they have, anyhow all their assets have been frozen so no access to cash.

They seem to have done OK against the well-trained high tech equipped western forces in the last two decades, and cash won't be a problem now that their opium crops can continue without hindrance.

"Franz Klintsevich, the first deputy head of the defense and security committee in the lower house of Russian parliament, told The Associated Press that the U.S. has left behind huge arsenals of weapons that fell into the Taliban's hands.

“Who would make such gifts to terrorists after fighting them for 20 years?” said Klintsevich, a veteran of the Soviet war in Afghanistan."

[Spectrum]

They may have moved on from camels and swords but to operate this new found bounty needs skill and years of training to operate, a skill I don't think they have, anyhow all their assets have been frozen so no access to cash.

They seem to have done OK against the well-trained high tech equipped western forces in the last two decades, and cash won't be a problem now that their opium crops can continue without hindrance.

"Franz Klintsevich, the first deputy head of the defense and security committee in the lower house of Russian parliament, told The Associated Press that the U.S. has left behind huge arsenals of weapons that fell into the Taliban's hands.

“Who would make such gifts to terrorists after fighting them for 20 years?” said Klintsevich, a veteran of the Soviet war in Afghanistan."

Just read that the Us has admitted that it has left behind hundreds of vehicles, countless tons of equipment and 30/40 planes If I lived in the states I would be worried about an attack form the Taliban on home soil, it seems they have the fire power to do some serious damage, don't people learn from the past conflicts, that you never leave anything behind that could be used against you at a later date, if you watch history programs, while retreating you destroy your vehicles, take sump plug off and run engine until it seizes.

[Char]

I've edited some posts to correct the quotes and as some of the posts discussing the misquotes didn't make sense after I'd edited, I've had to remove those as well.

Apologies to those of you who have lost posts, but the thread makes a bit more sense now.

Thank you also for discussing the misquotes in a light hearted matter and not getting cross with each other.