Far right surge in EU elections

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Blaze wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:52 amBut in France, since the Revolution, it seems that if the minority don't like what the majority have voted for, they take to the streets. Everyone - even school children - insists on their right to express themselves by demonstrating and the subsequent disruption often turns to vandalism and violence.
But this is not confined to France. Events across the pond when Trump lost the presidential election would fall into the same category, I suggest.

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niemeyjt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:02 am
Blaze wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:52 amBut in France, since the Revolution, it seems that if the minority don't like what the majority have voted for, they take to the streets. Everyone - even school children - insists on their right to express themselves by demonstrating and the subsequent disruption often turns to vandalism and violence.
But this is not confined to France. Events across the pond when Trump lost the presidential election would fall into the same category, I suggest.
That was more unusual and mainly down to one man and his supporters, though it could inspire others ... The people of the US don't take to the streets every time they disagree with something.

The growing unrest in France, not helped by the agitating of that Trotsyist Melenchon, is far more worrying.

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#43 Post by MAD87 »

It's a bigger problem for voters this time: a triangular contest between the RN (Le Pen/Bardella), the Majorité Présidentielle (Macron/Attal) and Le Front Populaire (Allsorts, inc Mélanchon and his LFI). I'm still undecided, although I won't be voting RN under any circumstances.

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#44 Post by Oldblueraincoat »

Lot of fear mongering going on at the moment - the Napoleonic figure leading the country is probably regretting his decision, he's even stating it could lead to a civil war.


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Blaze wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:19 am
niemeyjt wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:02 am
Blaze wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:52 amBut in France, since the Revolution, it seems that if the minority don't like what the majority have voted for, they take to the streets. Everyone - even school children - insists on their right to express themselves by demonstrating and the subsequent disruption often turns to vandalism and violence.
But this is not confined to France. Events across the pond when Trump lost the presidential election would fall into the same category, I suggest.
That was more unusual and mainly down to one man and his supporters, though it could inspire others ... The people of the US don't take to the streets every time they disagree with something.
The growing unrest in France, not helped by the agitating of that Trotskyist Melenchon, is far more worrying.
Why? Isn't it a clear sign that people have had enough of being milked for the advantage of an elite few? That maybe this country needs to reevaluate the direction it seems to be taking under Macron? It's a great pity that the voyous play into the hands of the media by undermining the true message of these demonstrations.

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Quiksilver wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:10 pm Why? Isn't it a clear sign that people have had enough of being milked for the advantage of an elite few?
Would it be different under any other government ? I agree with Mad, the choice is not going to be easy for voters and the outcome is unlikely to satisfy the population if they vote only in order to keep someone out. That is, if they bother to vote rather than spoiling or voting blanc.
The 3 horse race doesn't leave much choice for voters, but the lack of enthusiasm/confidence/support for the less extreme left or right (i.e. UMP) has left France in the situation it is now.

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#47 Post by Niftyons »

No, as has been said before.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Pitty that so many bloody fools are allowed to vote.

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#48 Post by Quiksilver »

So what's your definition of an 'intelligent' voter, then, @Niftyons? :?

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#49 Post by Blaze »

This tickled me !

L'enseignant demande à sa classe : "qui est fan de MELENCHON ?"
Ne sachant pas vraiment ce qu'est un fan de MÉLENCHON, mais voulant être aimés de l'enseignant, tous les enfants ont levé la main, à l'exception du petit Julien.
L'enseignant a demandé au petit Julien pourquoi as-tu décidé d'être différent... encore une fois ?
Petit Julien a dit :
- "Parce que je ne suis pas un fan de MÉLENCHON !"
Le professeur a demandé :
- "Pourquoi n'es-tu pas un fan de MÉLENCHON ?"
Julien a répondu:
- "Parce que je suis de droite !"
Le professeur lui a demandé pourquoi il est de droite ?
Le petit Julien répondit :
- "Eh bien, ma mère est de droite et mon père est également de droite, alors je suis de droite !"
Le professeur, agacé par cette réponse, lui demanda :
- "Si ta mère était une idiote et ton père, un crétin, tu serais quoi ?"
Le petit Julien a répondu :
- "Un fan de MÉLENCHON !"

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#50 Post by Niftyons »

I can’t think of an answer because there are an infinite number of variables and too many degrees of freedom.

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