Poor old Greg

[Naylor's Ark]

+3 Blaze.

[A.N.Other]

So now accusations of inappropriate behaviour are suddenly 'sexual offences'?

[ajm]

So now accusations of inappropriate behaviour are suddenly 'sexual offences'?
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Why not?

[Chappers51]

Thank you Blaze.

I know there are many on here of a similar age to me who will be the mothers of those « women of a certain age » he referred to and who spent their early twenties endeavouring to change the attitudes of society - both male and female.

One of the final acts I had to undertake 16/17 years ago was to investigate a complaint against a highly responsible and respected colleague - I had to suspend whilst the investigation took place. It was a difficult time for everyone, fortunately the complaints were unfounded and he subsequently moved on to a better position.

Unfortunately, my understanding of this case is that no significant investigation and/or follow up has been conducted. If someone has had a « final warning «  then any subsequent incident should have resulted in dismissal, immediately after the subsequent investigation.

Where’s the line between inappropriate and sexual behaviour? There people’s attitudes will differ, but if someone appeared in front of of me wearing a sock on his penis, or felt it acceptable to stand extremely close behind me, I would certainly say that is both inappropriate and sexual behaviour.

[niemeyjt]

So now accusations of inappropriate behaviour are suddenly 'sexual offences'?

There are also those claimed to have been groped.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/29/gregg-wa ... -22094020/

[exile]

Thank you Blaze.

I know there are many on here of a similar age to me who will be the mothers of those « women of a certain age » he referred to and who spent their early twenties endeavouring to change the attitudes of society - both male and female.

One of the final acts I had to undertake 16/17 years ago was to investigate a complaint against a highly responsible and respected colleague - I had to suspend whilst the investigation took place. It was a difficult time for everyone, fortunately the complaints were unfounded and he subsequently moved on to a better position.

Unfortunately, my understanding of this case is that no significant investigation and/or follow up has been conducted. If someone has had a « final warning « then any subsequent incident should have resulted in dismissal, immediately after the subsequent investigation.

Where’s the line between inappropriate and sexual behaviour? There people’s attitudes will differ, but if someone appeared in front of of me wearing a sock on his penis, or felt it acceptable to stand extremely close behind me, I would certainly say that is both inappropriate and sexual behaviour.

There for me lies significant confusion in what has been reported in this case. My understanding is:

Complaints were made to the BBC
He was not employed by the BBC but by a production company who produced programs for the BBC.
He was spoken to - by the BBC who did not employ him or the production company?
Is this where the lack of appropriate action at the right time stems from?

[Pathca]

So now accusations of inappropriate behaviour are suddenly 'sexual offences'?

Well yes very often they are
It’s the ‘lightening ‘ of sexual offences to inappropriate behaviour that has caused the mess that we are in

[Pathca]

Out of interest what do people see see as unacceptable behaviour and where does it differ from sexual offences? ( if they consider it does)

[exile]

Telling lewd jokes in polite company?

There is no doubt that standards and expectations have changed a lot in the last 20 or so years and some have failed to keep track.

[Pathca]

I agree Exile,times have changed and there are some who seem to be unable to cope with the fact that women don’t just put up and shut up anymore
Also agree with the lewd jokes definition,but it’s worth bearing in mind that they could also become offences under tha Harassment Alarm and Disstress legislation if they go too far